
Speaking of Marcel Duchamp, it’s always wild to me that the Alfred Stieglitz photo Marcel Duchamp used to introduce Fountain to the world set the urinal against Marsden Hartley’s 1914 German-era painting, [The] Warriors.

What Richard Schiff wrote about that Jasper Johns ink drawing of Flag on Orange Field applies here, too: “It need not be orange anymore than a monochromatic photograph of a rainbow need be multicolored. The medium determines how the qualities of a work appear.” But seeing things in color sure does change things. I got kind of annoyed by the end of the podcast and am not going back, but I think Helen Molesworth was talking about how Duchamp’s Fountain was an image before it was an object.
Now I wonder what the relationship between Mutt’s urinal and Hartley’s painting was like when they were photographed together. I’d assumed it was just lying around 291, but the Marsden Hartley Legacy Project notes that in March 1917, Warriors was exhibited at Ardsley Studios in Brooklyn, alongside paintings by Morton Schamberg. That was a month before Fountain was submitted to the Independents. Ardsley Studios was the project of Hamilton Easter Field, a rich, gay Brooklyn Quaker whose family’s estate on the North Shore was apparently inspiration for the site, if not the style, of Fitzgerald’s West Egg.

But more to the point at hand, perhaps, is Schamberg, who, also in 1917, photographed a sculpture made from plumbing in front of a painting. One of Schamberg’s own paintings was the backdrop for at least one of the pictures he made of God, Elsa von Freytag-Lohringhoven’s drain trap mounted on a mitre box.

Anyway, this hacked collage is of little help to understanding the site of Stieglitz’s photograph, but maybe it’s a start. I think there was more going on in the background than it seemed.
[A few minutes later update] As noted above and surprising no one, Fountain expert William Camfield noted the two works’ formal similarities. From Warriors‘ exhibition history, I think the first or even only time so far that the painting has been exhibited in the context of Fountain is Sarah Greenough’s 2001 show at the National Gallery, Modern Art and America: Alfred Stieglitz and His New York Galleries. The checklist included both The Blind Man and the painting, but also a 1964 Schwarz replica of Fountain. I’ll look for an installation shot.